Naish 2008 line up in de nieuwe Kiteboarding.de

mbetz

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Juli 27, 2007, 03:27:10
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In de nieuwe uitgave van Kiteboarding.de (Augustus) staat een uitgebreid artikel over de 2008 Naish Ktes en boards:
Kites:
CULT 4-lijns SLE Flat Kite 6, 7.5, 9, 10.5, 12, 13.5, 15m
CODE 4-lijns SLE Flat Kite 3, 4.5, 6, 9, 12m
Alliance 5-lijns Flatkite 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16m
Torch 5-lijns C-Kite 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18m

De kites zien er gaaf uit en de TORCH blijft dus in het programma!!! ThumpsUp

Boards:
Haze
SOL
Thorn
Custom Wave Boards

Boards zien eer oop mooi uit alleen de Haze is ROOD gekleurd.... (tong_kitesmiley)

Snel dus de nieuwe Kiteboarding.de halen! loser
mbetz

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Antwoord #1 Juli 27, 2007, 03:36:22
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Sorry, was in de haast vergeten dat the HELIX ook nieuw is:
HELIX 4 lijns SLE Flatkite 5, 7, 9, 10, 12, 14, 16m
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Antwoord #2 Juli 28, 2007, 02:34:41
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Woon je vlak bij Duitsland of heb je een abonnement? Stond overigens al in de vorige uitgave dat ze de nieuwe Naish line-up hadden getest.
hOe hA HeNniE

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Antwoord #3 Juli 28, 2007, 03:07:48
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Woon je vlak bij Duitsland of heb je een abonnement?
blad is in elke goede boekenzaak te krijgen!
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Antwoord #4 Juli 28, 2007, 14:24:42
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Sorry, was in de haast vergeten dat the HELIX ook nieuw is:
HELIX 4 lijns SLE Flatkite 5, 7, 9, 10, 12, 14, 16m

Helix 10 gaat er niet komen! Was eerst wel gezegd maar is later terug getrokken. Toen was het blad waarschijnlijk al ready to print.
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Antwoord #5 Juli 28, 2007, 15:46:18
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blad is in elke goede boekenzaak te krijgen!

Dat bedoelde ik niet, had wat duidelijker moeten zijn. Als je abonnement hebt dan kan je hem al thuis hebben liggen, want in de beter gesorteerde boekenzaken duurt het meestal nog een aantal dagen voordat hij in de schappen ligt. In Deutschland kwam hij 26/07/07 uit.
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Antwoord #6 Juli 28, 2007, 23:53:10
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Alliance 5-lijns Flatkite 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16m


Is de Alliance een flat kite dan?
En geen min of meer C-shape sigma?
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Antwoord #7 Juli 29, 2007, 02:58:13
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Alliancde is een C Sigma. Maar te lezen in het blad zijn ze meer te spreken over de Helix....
Testen die hap zeg ik (maar weer eens...)
mbetz

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Antwoord #8 Juli 30, 2007, 15:23:35
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Rhino,
Ik woon inderdaad sinds 3 jaar in Starnberg net onder Munchen. Vandaar dat ik de Kiteboarding.de vorige week al in de bus had! Kan hier op de Starnberger See kiten, met vol uitzicht op de (nog besneeuwde) alpen toppen. En natuurlijk Gardameer, Adria en Sardinie op korte afstand!!

Groetjes
Mike 
mathieu3
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Antwoord #9 Juli 30, 2007, 15:42:41
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Alliancde is een C Sigma. Maar te lezen in het blad zijn ze meer te spreken over de Helix....
Testen die hap zeg ik (maar weer eens...)

Komt dat omdat het duitsers zijn? ; ) Die houden wel van katrollen en bridle`s...
mbetz

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Antwoord #10 Juli 30, 2007, 16:08:22
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Volgens mij komt het omdat de Helix als eerste beschikbaar is, dus kun je ervan uitgaan dat er met deze kite het meeste getest is..
xray

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Antwoord #11 Juli 30, 2007, 17:16:04
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Ze hebben ook met de Alliance gevaren en daar een korte review van gegeven...
xray

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Antwoord #12 Juli 30, 2007, 17:18:33
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Hier nog een review van een verstokte unhoohed golven C rijder van KF geplukt...

"I flew the Helix today for a bit. 170.b rider, 9m kite, seven strut model in wind averaging 16 with gusts of 20 and lulls of 12 on a standard 6'0" (custom version of Airush production converse) in waves from knee to head high. Rode about 20 minutes, caught 8 waves (all unhooked). In short, ideal conditions.

The short version is "this is a great SLE and anyone in the market for this type of kite should try to test one of these for sure.

The details are as follows:

What I liked: Most comfortable kite I've flown. Very, very smooth flying kite. No flapping and nothing weird about performance. If I wanted a really comfortable kite to cruise around for eight hours on, this would be at the top of the short list (of what I've tried) Sheet way out and kill all the power and it sits very stable. Felt like other SLE but smoother and more stable. Turning was a bit better than other SLE, not fast like a good C, but good for this style of kite and the feel of the turn is good. Not pivotal at all and carves a nice arc. I am really only interested in unhooked wave riding and that is what I wanted to see if it could do. The kite should be sheeted to full depower for unhooking (I don't know how the kite was rigged but assume it was stock middle knot). Trimmed this way it unhooks and flys well. Again, very stable and smooth and not a bad kite for someone looking to learn how to ride waves unhooked. Sits a little back from what I am used to but better than most other SLEs I have flown. If the wind angle is perfect this kite is a smooth and effective unhooked wave kite, if you need to turn it a lot (onshores for example) it is not fast enough. The stopper widget on this kite is a really good one. slides easy when you want it to, holds when it is supposed to and it has adjustable tension (not on the fly). Best widget stopper thingy yet. Bar was not full production so I won't comment on rest of it.

What I didn't like: Slow turning compared to new Cs for unhooked waves. Granted it was a big kite but still this is the big area that needs work in all depower bridle kites. Much slower than Generator, Torch, Reactor etc. Kite also felt a little undersized for a 9. I would have been on my seven reactor (in fact I had been earlier when wind was even lighter but I was also underpowered). I would like to try the seven of this kite (none around) but I just had a feeling that it would be not enough. Seemed when I rode it and watched others that it was a little less kite in lighter winds than older Naish SLE shockwave. So maybe for light winds you loose a little. Not a whole kite size worth but feels like maybe 1/2 to 1 meter smaller?

Couldn't say how it relaunches but it is very hard to crash this kite if there is wind. I don't know if it gets weird in super light winds.

Who will love this kite? Basically anyone who wants a really smooth riding comfortable, easy to fly, stable depower kite. One of the very best of the genre.

Best uses? all around free ride kite. Great choice for a one kite quiver maybe although I have questions about light wind performance and no idea about high end.

Is it revolutionary? Not really but it is damn good at what it was designed to do and it validates the design and shape.

Serious Competitors; North Rebel, Airush Vapor. It would be great to see an unbiased, no holds barred test of these three.

Prediction: Naish will dominate the bridle kite sales with this thing. It may or may not be the best bridled kite but with lots of hype already and the fact that the kite is solid and super comfortable and easy to fly I would expect the Waroo flyers to jump ship to Naish by the hundreds.

The design is interesting enough that I wonder if this design could be applied to high end C shapes?"
wouterb

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Antwoord #13 Augustus 01, 2007, 15:04:42
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een ander van KF
http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2340888

I was able to try the 9m Helix yesterday at Mokes on Oahu. First, my disclaimers, I am not a sponsored rider nor do I work for any company in the kiteboarding industry. I come from C kites (since '99) have been riding SLE's for the past 2 years mostly, but have an open mind to both. THis is a little long winded but here's what I experienced:

The wind according to the IKitesurf sensor (which may be reporting a bit under) read avg wind 15, top gusts to 22 and lulls at about 10. I am 180 pounds (don't know what that is in kilos).
Before and after riding the Helix, I was on a 2006 9m shockwave. So, I can make some comparisons to that kite readily.

First of all, the words that most readily pop into my mind to describe the kite is smooth, stable, easy, precise. The first thing I noticed when I flew it, was that it was ultra stable, and ultra smooth, the canopy simply did not flutter, flap or do anything weird in the air. When I hit the water, the first time, I was on the 2:1 setting. The bar pressure seemed a bit lighter than the 9m shockwave. It didn't have as much low end grunt, yet I will say it felt "familiar" in this setting. As I sheeted out and in, the power delivery felt more gradual and more precise though, if that makes sense. The wind was a bit light, so I came in, changed the bar to the 1:1 setting, waited for the wind to get good again, and then went back out.
The bar pressure on the 1:1 setting, I would classify as very light. The kite continued to be smooth on the power stroke, stable, very easy to use and again, precise. I wish there were more waves that day (it was flat to 1 ft. wind swell) so I could comment more on wave performance. The kite seemed to jump well, although, I found that I had to fly the kite a bit differently in the air. It took a few jumps to figure out the slightly different timing. I also thought the kite was super fast, when I was gybing around.
The bar I used, was evidently not the finished product that will be shipped with the new kites. Despite this, it was pretty impressive. I would echo SWK's compliments about the sliding stopper "wedge" being excellent. It was super simple and super effective. Every other function of the bar worked well. I appreciated the floaters on the outside lines, as I had my shockwave bar sink on me, and get stuck in the reef before. BUMMER...
I ended up thinking that this kite would probably cover a lot of conditions. I prefer the waves and wind on the N. Shore of Oahu, but out of neccessity I often end up hitting E. Shore (Kailua) as it is only 15 minutes away. Very different riding conditions/wind angles etc. Presently, I use different kites for these different venues. (Shockwave preferred at Mokes for pure waveriding/side shore-Caution Answer at Kailua for freeriding/jumping/side onshore to onshore conditions)
On the cons side, I too am wondering about potential bladder problems, and the one pump system. I am currently dealing with a slow leaking main bladder on another kite, most likely around the valve stems, and it SUCKS! Plenty bladders, plenty can go wrong?! I would hate to be traveling and have something go wrong. I echo the sentiments that this seemingly minor problem needs to be solved.
Also, the kite seemed to not have as much low end grunt, perhaps it is sized a bit under an average 9. It seemed to have a really high high end, but not as much low end as my shockwave 9, for example.
All in all, I think the kite will end up appealing to a lot of riders in a lot of different conditions. There's a lot to like in my humble opinion.


jurrr

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Antwoord #14 Augustus 01, 2007, 16:01:19
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kan je die magazine ook in de nederlandse winkels kopen ??
xray

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Antwoord #15 Augustus 01, 2007, 18:43:52
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Yep, hier in Arnhem zeker en op Utrecht CS ook bijvoorbeeld...
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